Rebuttal to feedback regarding Therazane and our boobies segment
Hey Guys, Just before we start show 76, I just want to talk about something that’s happened this week.
We have received some feedback from a listener regarding our segment “Best and Worst Boobies in WoW”, and in particular show 72.
During this show, Therazane was chosen as having the worst boobs, with our guest asking why the earth mother figure had to be portrayed with saggy boobies, couldn’t she be portrayed with more pert boobies like Alexstraza for example. This started a light hearted discussion about whether Therazane just needed a better tailor or corsetiere.
The feedback we received about this says that we have upset people by heaping hate and shame upon the Earthmother and her boobies, and accuses us of body shaming and supporting and promoting a modern male perspective of what beautiful is as regards the female form.
After receiving this, we really felt it was worth spending time discussing this offline with each other and then sharing with you our feelings on this.
Such a topic is naturally something that is close to all of us, being women and Roblin, being a chap who appreciates the female form. But speaking for the ladies of @ggwshow, we have personal perspectives on boobies, being owners of them, and also being women of different shapes, sizes and opinions. Between us, we’ve got all sorts of boobies and bodies, big, small, pert, bouncy and saggy. And they are all perfect in their own way. Not everyone likes every type but that’s fine, as long as no-one is rude or unkind.
Therazane and her daughter, Princess Theradas are obviously modeled off historical depictions of the Mother Goddess, for example the Venus of Willendorf. Such pieces often depict larger female forms with saggy boobies and are beautiful. Overall, we think that Blizzard actually have done a good job in their tribute to these pieces, with one error. The real problem is how the faces have been modelled and in fact we think it’s the faces that cause people to dislike the models. Both WoW models have distorted and rough faces, which act as a harsh contrast to the rest of their forms so as to render the models quite unsympathetic and a little disturbing. Theradras actually has quite pert boobies if you go back and loot at the model.
We have never sort to imply or heap any shame on saggy boobies, or anything or anyone that does not have the form of characters like Alexstraza. Beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder and people should be free to live their lives free of harassment, upset, bullying or intimidation because of their physical form. For one member of the show this is a particularly sensitive topic as they are recovering from an eating disorder that has been sustained in part over the years due to bullying regarding their physicality. The anonymity of online gaming can be a huge release from these day to day pressures as no-one can see you, so can’t comment on what you look like: in that regard it can be a safe space.
Our segment where we ask our guests about boobies in game is meant to be a light hearted way to end our interview with them. It’s all about personal preference and it is perfectly acceptable for people to not like these models in game. It may mean they don’t like them IRL but that is their choice. It might also mean they just prefer pertness in game. Either way, it is perfectly legitimate for them to chose what they like or don’t like. If our question ever turned into a discussion that suggested that RL saggy boobs are unnatural, or disgusting, or wrong, then we would jump on that but it’s never happened. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but respect that others opinions may vary is equally as important.
If anyone has any further feedback then please let us know at sil@girlsgonewow.net. Thanks for writing to us.
Show 75: This week the GGW-crew goes all serious when we tackle some very serious subjects with regards to the behaviour of the wow-community. Of course we have some more light-hearted topics like the accents in wow, lopsided boobies and loincloths. However, this weeks side topic is something we feel very strongly about and we hope we did it enough justice on our podcast.
Welcome back Summer
Interview time
How was our week in WoW?
News: New Vol’jin model http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2012/october/voljin.jpg
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Show 75: Kun Lai Summit! Grummles, grummles, grummles! What do you think of the Kun Lai Summit area?
Gen is here to talk about jerks in game (http://untamedhellcat.wordpress.com/2012/11/02/on-being-irked-by-jerks ) & http://frostwolves.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/navi-is-declaring-anti-asshat-week.html ,
Competitions: none at the moment
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Have you done your dailies yet? Better hurry up to get your rep up! What do you think of grinding for Rep through the dailies? Which ones do you love and which one can’t you stand? What rep grind was the easiest and which is not fun at all? Or is there a group of NPC’s that should have a daily faction grind? Also important! We have Kevin and Apsana from the Darkmoon Herald podcast. Have any questions for them? Make sure to send them in! #wow #podcasts #warcraft
It’s a cross over party here at Girls gone WoW when EJ, Sil and Rob are joined by Rob and Shane from Horde house. We talk a lot about boobies, doing naughty things and forgetting there’s a camera, pet battles and Canada.
Show 74:
Welcome back BossRob & Shane
Interview time
A big thank you to Jamie for her generous donation!
How was our week in WoW?
- Panda’s and mining
- Monks and their instant flightforms
News: lol-player got caught masturbating while streaming, new mounts (windsteed and gryphons/wyverns-update), ej and follow up politics and wow
Plug for our website: www.girlsgonewow.net and we are now part of the Voice of Geeks (vog) Network. You can listen to our show on VOG Wednesdays at 5pm UK time. You can find us at vognetwork.com where you can also find other great shows like Orange Lounge Radio, Hordehouse and Podculture.
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Show 74: A wild wow-player appears! Fight! It’s pet battles! Are you enjoying them and do you have your perfect teams? Or are you staying away from this pokemon wannabe? #wow #podcasts #warcraft
- How far are you (level, defeating trainers)
- Best team you’ve build
- What do you like and what not
- New pets now from old vanilla raids (no longer raidgroup needed)
Competitions: Facebook draw for white raptor/pony bridle Sunday the 28th of October. The winner is…. Nicollette Mahl-Jhinn Cline
Thanks to Amiy for her donation!
http://www.wowpedia.org/Podcasting http://www.reddit.com/r/wowpodcasts
Tweets and e-mails
http://www.wowhuntershall.com/ and wow.joystiq.com/category/weekly-podcast-roundup/
Where to find BossRob:
www.Vognetwork.com
www.Orangeloungeradio.com
@skie
Where to find Shane:
@shanealenko
Kansas, US
We need guests!!! Send us an e-mail or a tweet if you want to be on our show! We’d love to get some of our old guests back too!
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Kun Lai Summit! Grummels, grummels, grummels! What do you think of the Kun Lai Summit area? #wow #podcasts #warcraft
The second area of Pandaria has a lot going on when it comes to the story. We meet some interesting NPC’s (one of which is a real creeper) and we delve into the Dutch world of flying cats which chase cows. Also what’s up with people being mean in dungeons lately! Be ready for some rants on this week’s show!
Show 73:
Welcome back Marie
Interview time
How was our week in WoW?
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Show 73: Want some beer? Godzilla and Mothra? Starship troopers? You want a montage? We’re talking about Valley of the Four Winds, but what do you have to say about it?
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/04/business/la-fi-tn-cat-helicopter-takes-flight-20120604
Competitions: Facebook draw for white raptor/pony bridle Sunday the 28th of October
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Where to find Marie:
Twitter: @Mbuhtz
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A wild wow-player appears! Fight! It’s pet battles! Are you enjoying them and do you have your perfect teams? Or are you staying away from this pokemon wannabe? #wow #podcasts #warcraft
Girls gone WoW 73 LiLi; the marmite of the Valley of the Four Winds
It’s an early morning for Navimie from the Daily Frostwolf when she joins GGW. Everyone seems to be a bit tired, but it doesn’t stop the girls from talking almost over 2 hours about the Jade Forest and the new patch notes. There’s also a Tauren that looks like Elton John. Yes, Really!
Show 72:
Welcome Navimie
Interview time
News: 5.1 patch notes, politicians and wow
How was our week in WoW?
Plug for our website: www.girlsgonewow.net and we are now part of the Voice of Geeks (vog) Network. You can listen to our show on VOG Wednesdays at 5pm UK time. You can find us at www.vognetwork.com where you can also find other great shows like Orange Lounge Radio, Hordehouse and Podculture.
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Show 72: What is your opinion about the first area in MoP; Jade Forest?
Competitions: Facebook draw for white raptor/pony bridle Sunday the 28th of October
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Blog: http://frostwolves.blogspot.co.uk/
Twitter: @NavimieDruid
e-mail: sparrowgalblog@gmail.com
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And we are on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/GirlsGoneWowPodcast
Twitter: @GGWshow and Please leave us reviews on Itunes!
Sil: @lumineus
EJ: @Ottahz
Rob: @GGWRoboto
Raven: @silkyraven
E-mail; sil@girlsgonewow.net
If you want a more general gaming podcast listen to the Obscurecast; Press start to continue on Itunes or on the website: obscurecast.com
Show 73: Wants some beer? Godzilla and Mothra? Starship troopers? You want a montage? We’re talking about Valley of the Four Winds, but what do you have to say about it? #wow #podcasts #warcraft
The GGW-crew is joined by Quartermaster of the pets; JoAnn. We discuss the Pandaren, their starting area and the new monk class. We all seem to be a bit overwhelmed still by all the changes to classes, levelling again and all the dailies for rep grinds. Luckily, we’ve spotted tanuki’s!
Show 71:
Welcome back JoAnn
Interview time
How was our week in WoW?
News: rep grind changes: http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/10/04/major-reputation-changes-coming-to-wow/
Plug for our website: www.girlsgonewow.net and we are now part of the Voice of Geeks (vog) Network. You can listen to our show on VOG Wednesdays. You can find us at vognetwork.com where you can also find other great shows like Orange Lounge Radio, Hordehouse and Podculture.
Join our guild on Argent Dawn EU horde side: Ashes of Man
Show 71: Move over Kung Fu Panda and make some room for the real panda’s!: Pandaren and the Monk class; what do you like and dislike? What direction did you go with your monk; healer, dps or tank? How was the Pandaran starting area?
Want to play a healer monk? Read this: http://treehealsgowoosh.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/why-you-should-or-shouldnt-play-a-mistweaver-monk/
Facebook draw for white raptor/pony bridle Sunday the 28th of October
Tweets and e-mails
Emes’ blog: http://emes.blog.com/
Where to find JoAnn:
@Torhrment on Twitter
torhrment@gmail.com
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Raven: @silkyraven
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I see trees of green…….. red hozen too. I see em bloom….. for me and you
And I think to myself…. what a wonderful world of Warcraft. What is your opinion about the first area in MoP; Jade Forest? #wow #podcasts #warcraft
The gang talks about their first week in Pandaria. We also have loads of e-mails to get through and we discuss how the launch even in London was. We get taught the valuable lesson of: it’s not stealing when you roll need! Also, Rob lays an egg. *gasp*
Show 70:
Thank you NexoNexo (aka Eric) Tauren Hunter in Nocturnal Vigilance on Scryers, US Server for creating our new intro and outro music!
Welcome Razerbug
Interview time
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Show 70: Holly Tauren, Pandaman! We’re talking about our first week in Pandaria. What is your first impression? And what did you do first? Tell us all
Subjects we’ll talk about: (pro’s and con’s)
- Launch event
- getting into Pandaria
- Overall opinion
Competitions: Screenshot of you and your favourite companion pet in your favourite place in WoW. Announcing the winner! Kittiefox from Stormrage! Prize given by JoAnn aka Torhrment
Runner up: lil xt for RzBg
Facebook draw for white raptor/pony bridle Sunday the 28th of October.
Tweets and e-mails
http://instagram.com/p/QF6m4MQMGx/ special boobiepicture!
Where to find Razerbug:
@RzBg
Obscurecast.com
@obscurecast
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Sil: @lumineus
EJ: @Ottahz
Rob: @GGWRoboto
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Move over Kung Fu Panda and make some room for the real panda’s!: Pandaren and the Monk class; what do you like and dislike? What direction did you go with your monk; healer, dps or tank? How was the Pandaran starting area? #wow #podcasts #warcraft
The girls are Robless today on a very naughty GGW. In show 69 we talk about a very interesting topic…us! We answer all your questions and boy where there loads to answer. If you want to know more about the girls, then this is the episode to listen to.
Welcome … us!
Interview time
How was our week in WoW?
News: Theramore event; our opinions. Fundraiser: http://www.extra-life.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=donorDrive.event&eventID=508
Plug for our website: www.girlsgonewow.net and we are now part of the Voice of Geeks (vog) Network. You can listen to our show on VOG Wednesdays at 5pm UK time. You can find us at www.vognetwork.com where you can also find other great shows like Orange Lounge Radio, Hordehouse and Podculture.
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69: Ask us anything! It’s Q&A time!
Forsaken RP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb5LIo6HE6Y&playnext=1&list=PL679691EB1D3FF979&feature=results_main
Tweets and e-mails
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EJ: @Ottahz
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Raven: @silkyraven
E-mail; sil@girlsgonewow.net
If you want a more general gaming podcast listen to the Obscurecast; Press start to continue on Itunes or on the website: obscurecast.com
70: Holly Tauren, Pandaman! We’re talking about our first week in Pandaria. What is your first impression? And what did you do first? Tell us all
oHo #wow #podcasts #warcraft
Show 68: We are joined by the taurenlistique Jules from Tauren Think Tank. We discuss the Tauren race and talk a bit about EJ’s rising start on the interwebz. Also there is a lot of cocktalk by the boobies. Oh dear!
Welcome Jules!
Interview time
How was our week in WoW?
Thank you Styxer for your generous donation! You’re amazing!
News: 7 day free trial for old players to check out the new patch, Theramore event ilevel 353, EJ on her turtle: http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/09/15/sea-turtles-currently-rideable-by-level-one-characters/
Plug for our website: www.girlsgonewow.net and we are now part of the Voice of Geeks (vog) Network. You can listen to our show on VOG Wednesdays at 5pm UK time. You can find us at www.vognetwork.com where you can also find other great shows like Orange Lounge Radio, Hordehouse and Podculture.
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68: Let’s talk about Taurens! Since we have Jules from the Tauren Think Tank we want to know what your opinion is! Do you love them or not? What do you think of their lore? Favourite npc tauren, etc. And their faction leader? Tauren female icon: eyes open!
Ugly cry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKGA4X9Mc-8
Competitions: Screenshot of you and your favourite companion pet in your favourite place in WoW. Announce on the 23rd of September. 1 screenshot per person!
Tweets and e-mails
Where to find Jules:
Show website: http://www.taurenthinktank.com
Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/TaurenThinkTank
Twitter: @JulesRPG
@taurenthinktank
@remgar
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69: Ask us anything! You, the listener, can ask us anything and we may well answer it
WoW related preferably
#wow #podcasts #warcraft
We dive back into some old school gaming on Girls Gone WoW when we talk to our guest Styxer. Of course we discuss the mini-games we have now in WoW and what games should be added… or perhaps there shouldn’t be any games in wow?
Show 67:
Welcome Styxer!
Interview time
How was our week in WoW? My husband plays again!
News: Theramore on the 18th; Our expectations. Launch events all over the globe.
Plug for our website: www.girlsgonewow.net and we are now part of the Voice of Geeks (vog) Network. You can listen to our show on VOG Wednesdays at 5pm UK time. You can find us at www.vognetwork.com where you can also find other great shows like Orange Lounge Radio, Hordehouse and Podculture.
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Show 67 Games: we now have copies of Plants v Zombies and soon will have farmville in WoW. Are there any other games that you think could enhance your WoW experience or do you worry about the introduction of more things like this?
Competitions: Screenshot of you and your favourite companion pet in your favourite place in WoW. Announce on the 23rd of September. 1 screenshot per person!
Tweets and e-mails
For Rob:
http://www.panorama.nl/fotos/humor-fotos/creatief-met-lichaamshaar.html
For EJ:
http://www.panorama.nl/videos/humor/otter-speelt-met-kind.html
Where to find Styxer:
@styxerofwow
Blog: http://styxerofwow.imaginativefusionllc.com
Hydraxis US server: crusaders of the light
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68: Let’s talk about Taurens! Since we have Jules from the Tauren Think Tank we want to know what your opinion is! Do you love them or not? What do you think of their lore? Favourite npc tauren, etc. And their faction leader? #wow #podcasts #warcraft




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